Adeptus Custodes Retinue List

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Adeptus Custodes Retinue List

Postby Jodrell » May 25th, 2012, 2:58 pm

Here's a first draft at a Custodes list: link. They're basically Space Marines turned up to 11. Comments?
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Re: Adeptus Custodes Retinue List

Postby Pascal Tognon » May 27th, 2012, 8:06 pm

Hi Jodrell,

Nice to see an addition for the Custodes!

I must confess however, that although the Custodes are the toughest
'Marines' that roam 40K, the Custodes stats are a bit overdone...

With a FV of seven and the Weapon Bonus, do you even need to roll a D6
to slay your opponent?

The 4 and 3 speed bonus are also a bit overdone.
A max bonus of 2 should be sufficient.

The main thing is to keep the game balanced.

You are in for some very nice conversion work,
I'm looking forward to the pictures!

Oh, by any chance, do you know if you have to equal or exceed
the armour rating to hit an opponent figure?

C ya
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Re: Adeptus Custodes Retinue List

Postby Jodrell » June 3rd, 2012, 9:29 pm

Hi Pascal,

I definitely wanted to go "over the top" with the Custodes, they should be out-and-out the toughest units in the game. But at the same time I appreciate that they can't be so tough that it's impossible for an opponent to kill them.

Other than changing their Speed to 2, do you have any other suggestions? I definitely want them to have a higher stat line that Marines - I suppose Grey Knights could serve as a baseline?

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Re: Adeptus Custodes Retinue List

Postby Pascal Tognon » June 4th, 2012, 7:47 pm

Hello Jodrell,

Begun the conversions yet as to model them?

As to the stats: Custodes, fluff wise, pre-date the Space Marines.
Each custodian is created uniquely, and not 'en masse' as is the case with Space Marines
or Grey Knights.

The Gene Seed to create Grey Knights is rumoured to come from the Emperor
himself, as he foresaw his demise and sought to further protect mankind with warriors
able to fight off warp-spawn.

So, which stat lines ought to b better, fluff wise?
In Iten the beauty is that individuality is fully possible.
Maybe you should take advantage of that?
Some custodes are less good, equal or better than Grey Knights.

As for armament: the Custodes armament was the inspiration
for the armament of the Grey Knights.

What do you think of these:

Custodes 1: 24518
Custodes 2: 25418
Custodes 3: 25518
Custodes 4: 25528
Custodes 5: 26518
Captain-General: 26528 (Leader)

The first two are one point weaker in either FV or SV;
the third one is equal to a Grey Knight;
The fourth is equal, save that he is one point faster;
the fifth is formidable in FV;
and the last is the Captain-General.

These stats should make Custodes playable, without tabling your opponent,
but are in keep with the Holy Fluff. A warband with five individual Custodes.
To further enhance this you could imply the rule that each Custodes is unique
and may only be fielded once per warband.

As a weapon: the Custodes Halberd:

Combat Bonus: 3
Range: 24"
Grit Penalty: 1
Cost: 6

The 24" obviously is for the Bolter, and to make obvious that it isn't just any
old ordinary Bolter, use the Combat Bonus and Grit Penalty of the Halberd.

These stats are a tat weaker than yours,
but they keep game-play going and are more in keep with the fluff that they are
the equals, and sometimes the better of Grey Knights.

C ya
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Re: Adeptus Custodes Retinue List

Postby Pascal Tognon » June 4th, 2012, 8:05 pm

oops,

cost for the Halberd is 10, not 6!

Sorry, :oops:
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Re: Adeptus Custodes Retinue List

Postby Jodrell » June 8th, 2012, 4:11 pm

OK - here's a revised retinue list with feedback from Pascal:

Link

I dropped the FV, SV and Speed down so that they were a bit more reasonable. Sentinels and Custodians have the same FV and SV as Grey Knights, so to give them an edge, I've given Sentinels Combat Master and Custodians Gun Kata. I've also added 5pts for each special ability, and I've replaced the different spears with a basic Custodes Halberd.

As for models, I reckon these would do quite nicely:

Image

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Re: Adeptus Custodes Retinue List

Postby Pascal Tognon » June 10th, 2012, 1:24 pm

Ah yes, Scibor.
I forgot about those guys.
Very nice mini's!

Also a source for some VERY nice Sci-fi mini's:
http://www.infinitythegame.com/infinity/en/

C ya
Pascal


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